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mission. the senior sa senior advisor sae noticed the pope slowing down. we watched pope john paul ii suffer through the last few years of his papacy. maybe he wanted to avoid that. the former cardinal joseph ratzinger was touched by the charges of child abuse in the catholic church. bill: what happens next on the dates that are aren't? >> reporter: he's leaving february 28, 8:00 p.m. local time in rome. that leaves that very important vacancy and sets up a conclave of cardinals. vatican says by mid-march at the latest. vatican says we should have a new pope by esther sunday march 31. pope benedict will not take part in the conclave. usually a conclave happens after a pope dies. 1415 was the last time a pope quit in office. who is the next pope? he could come from developing areas of the world. it guarantees a lot of drama and a lot of black or white smoke coming from the roof is sistine chapel. march report concerns about the pope's health surfaced this past christmas eve. have it can watchers say he looked frail as he delivered the midnight mass. here he is riding in a motorized car
didn't see anything like what we saw during the twilight of the john paul years, with the series of hospitalizations here in rome, or sort of spectacular public collapses, i think it's more simply that benedict xvi's diagnosis is that he's going to be celebrating his 86th birthday in april. we have seen him pairing back public commitments and so on. he believes that the energy required to lead the catholic church forward at this moment is beyond his capacities. and i think he's decided therefore, not to wait for a moment of crisis, but while he's still capable of doing so, to make the decision to step aside and let somebody else take the baton. >> reverend martin, people are using words like shocking, unprecedented, why is this such a surprise? why didn't anybody expect this except for his inner circle? >> well, it hasn't happened for centuries, and you know, as john allen was saying, there had been speculation, there was speculation about john paul ii and people knew benedict was frail and in a sense diminishing physically, but i think the fact it hadn't happened so long means i
, he watched as a close advisor and close friend, john paul ii, in his last years as pope, and he saw not only the angst that john paul ii went through during that time of suffering, but he also saw how the vatican works when there's a pope that's not able to at his full capacity to do his job. something he obviously had in mind in the past that he could do it. it's very surprising he did. >>steve: father jonathan are you suggesting that the pope saw pope john paul ii in his declining years and said the people of the catholic community need a pope who's at 100% or as close to it as possible, so if i ever get to that stage i'm going to call it quits, and that's what he's doing? >> you know, it seems that that is a big part of his decision. we know how close he was to john paul ii. keep in mind, though, the pope is not a manager. this is why it's so shocking. the pope is not first and foremost the manager. he's the defender of the faith, protecting or guarding the teaching of the church and of the gospel. so you don't need somebody who is a stellar manager at his full capacity necessari
that led back to the vatican as well. a lot of questions about what it would be. john paul ii, thinking about resigning, prepared letters of resignation, and both from 197. he turned 75 and 80, never went ahead with the resignations that he was thinking about. but it will be interesting to hear more as we understand why the pope -- the reasons behind why the pope has been called to resign, which will happen on february 28th. >>> other stories making news this morning. john berman has that too. >>> talking about the storm here. families and businesses in seven counties trying to recover from a violent tornado that tore a path through southern mississippi on sunday. ripping apart homes, shops, and causing damage to a university campus. 4,000 homes are still without power. 16 people are injured. and a storm chaser captured this terrifying sight. a funnel cloud in hattiesburg. that took the brunt of a series of reported twisters that just pounded the region overnight. >>> meanwhile, the northeast beginning dig out of a history-making blizzard. parts of the region, including the hardest hit
is 85 years old. he became pope in 2005 after the baeth of john paul ii. likely take place before the end of march. the last pope to resign was way back in the 1200s 13th century. major headline today pope benedict xvi has announced he is resigning at the end of this month. much more on this to come throughout the morning. >> 7:30 right now. folks waking up to wet weather. >> a little bit of rain moving through overnight. the wet roadways will slow things down. but temperatures in the mid 30s, at least we're not doing ice. let's get to the maps. most of the vain now to the east. still pressing just east of the bay there out towards saint michaels. still getting rain showers. however, here locally in the metro area, up and down the 95 correspond door, we're generally done with the rain. not going to be a beautiful day. clouds for most of the day. for the most part, most of the measurable rain has pushed east of the bay. it will be east of those areas the next hour or two. let me show you the bigger picture. the bottom line is we have a warm front into the area later today. you are
pastor and we got that with john paul who also, by the way had pretty good managerial skills. we got with pope benedict xvi a brilliant mind and ability to teach and preach. now i hear some of my brother cardinals say, but we should also look for somebody with some pretty good managerial skills to bring the roman curia as an agent of evangelization and not to -- so if that means some type of renewal, if that needs some type of attention, so be it. >> reporter: as one cardinal put it to me scott, there's so many things needed in the new pope that it would be almost impossible to find it all in one man, but they do know that they need to deal with the mess that is the roman catholic curia at the moment, the church governance and also the ongoing problem of the sex abuse scandal. that is going to weigh heavily on the new pope scott. >> alan thank you very much. the banner that we see there says pope benedict thank you and we love you. the people that we saw gathering outside the papal apartments in san de maso courtyard are some of the folks who have worked for the p
benedict who stepped in and became pope after pope john paul ii, the iconic pope of the 20th century, stepped down. of course, pope john paul ii had been pope since 1979. and so, of course, his impact felt not only in the religious world but also the political world. pope benedict, though, never really, of course, given the chance to emerge from the shadows. and it seems that for a good bit of his time, he was dogged by allegations that came through the child abuse scandal throughout certainly before his reign. he was constantly being dogged by questions regarding that. but mark halperin, an iconic figure replaced by pope benedict who has had a very short tenure and now is stepping down in a way that a lot of popes don't step down before they die. >> short tenure, and it's going to be scrutinized for some of the issues you raised. to me now thinking forward, it's going to be a very big story for catholics and others around the world including the question of will it be another european? there's going to be pressure to look to another region of the country as there was last time. i th
actually wanted to retire before he became pope. that pope john paul ii really needed him and wanted him around and discouraged him from those very thoughts. it is said that he will be leaving that congregation of cloistered nuns in the vatican. there he will pray and probably write. bill. >> bill: amy kellogg, thank you. reportingreporting from rome lie tonight in that fox report. president obama's offering appreciation and prayers for the pope. now he and the first lady have warm memories of their meeting with the holy father in 2009 at the time a spokesman said the pope was very impressed with the president and for his part the president said he looked forward to a very strong relationship between the united states and the vatican. today, the president said in part, quote: the church plays a critical role in the united states and the world and i wish the best of those who will soon gather to choose his holiness pope benedict the xvith successor. house speaker john boehner said the prayers and gratitude of american catholics are with pope benedict xvi today. our team fox coverage cont
at the vatican. pope benedict carries the stigma of not being as popular as his predecessor, john paul ii. the monsignor of the shrine in washington puts it in perspective. >> christ was controversial. the things that jesus did. the way that he reached out to people. the way he talked to people. the types of people he talked to. it upsettle, many people. >> reporter: and tom roberts points out that pope benedict will be remembered as well for doing more to actually address the abuse scandal than his predecessor john paul ii ever did. wolf. >> as you know, pope benedict was also involved in a controversy in the united states over the actions of some american nuns. remind our viewers about this. >> reporter: that's right, not long ago, some american nuns challenged the church's teachings on home sexuality, on the male only priesthood. they supported obama's health care plan when the church spoke out against it. these nuns ended up being reprimanded. the nuns got a lot of support within the united states for their actions. it was controversial for the pope. he was also prompted to do that by
studio. >> but the idea was with pope john paul ii, he had been ill for many years. the cardinals were aware of what their responsibilities were going to be. we're hearing from most cardinals this took them totally by surprise. >> i think that's correct. he left also the cardinals in rome stunned. only about three people probably knew about it. his own personal secretary and probably also the dean of the college of cardinals. >> how does that affect then the fact that this is almost a shock to them in making the decision on who will be the next pope? >> when john paul ii was ill, basically they knew what was coming. so they had time to prepare, to talk, to look at the challenges and to look at candidates, possible candidates. that is now not the case. yes, of course, people have been looking at the pope-- >> we're going to put up a list of some of those being considered. is age going to be a factor? this pope was 78 when he was being considered, very old, most cardinals have to retire after age 80. will age be a factor in the decision? >> it might or might not be. the reason i say it m
is going to resign his position. the end of the month. and, you know, he succeeded john paul ii who has rushed to make a saint. wrongly so, i think. not that he doesn't deserve it. you need some time. also the pope has said this is not the first -- not the first pope to retire. popes can retire. we are used to popes dying in. right? and most of them have. but a little quick research as we were getting ready to come on the air which is why i am not fully in uniform yet this morning. i will take care of this right now, the last pope i could find to resign was pope gregory xii. >> i don't remember him. >> bill: you wouldn't. back in the 15th century around 1415 or so there have been maybe a half a dozen popes to resign. he is the last one i could find. >> wow. >> yeah. there are a lot of explanations out there on twitter, supposedly for the vatican sort of indirectly saying it's for health reasons. he doesn't have the strength to serve in this role any more. so we don't know exactly what that means. there were rumors when he would resign when his butler wa
to function. even john john paul ii. what is it about this pope that he decided to step down? >> i think there are a couple of things going on there. with john paul ii he knew he was dying. i don't think benedict is so seriously ill that he's going to die but he could -- you know, live for another 10 years. he's got an older brother. and being in the papacy and not to be up for the job. so i think he decided that it was best for the church to go at this point and let someone else carry the burden. >> bill: now as "the new york times" says, the church is at a crossroads in the sense that where the church used to be strong, it is not so much anymore and it is in a developing world in africa and in south america and in asia where the church is showing great growth. what does that say about a future pope? >> well, there's two theories here. one is you go and find somebody from africa where the church is truly growing. on the other hand, the other theory is no, you look for someone who can deal with the problems of the church, where it has real big problems, namely europe where it is in decli
benedict is no longer the pope, he has to give up the shoes but remember, john paul ii wore the red shoes for a couple weeks early on in his pontificate, then wore brown ones. the pope can really do what he wants. he's the supreme pontiff, the supreme ruler of the church and he kind of can make the rules himself and benedict made these himself today. >> interesting. although as you said, raymond, i say this, you know, can't change the doctrine, right? you do everything. >> can't do that. he can protect the doctrine but not amend it. >> let me talk about one other thing. he wears a ring, fisherman's ring. describe it to me and why he's going to actually destroy it. it looks kind of fluorescent green or yellow on his finger. >> now, this goes back to 1265. pope clement iv referenced this ring in one of his letters to a nephew. it is the sign and seal of his office. when you look closely, you are seeing a picture there, it is a bas relief of st. peter leaning over the edge of the boat pulling in fish. this shows and indicates that the pope, whoever wears this ring, is the successor of st. pe
-- it is a pretty good job to have -- think of my colleague justice john paul stevens who remained on the court until he was 90 and is still an avid golfer and tennis player and has recently written a book but not about himself but about the five chiefs he has known from the time he was a law clerk to the time he retired from the court. next question -- [laughter] >> you have had an amazing career and are leaving your legacy in below. looking back in your life, although there is still more to do, is there anything you would do differently? >> it's a question i don't ask myself. i will give you two pieces of advice i was given in that regard. when i was a brand new judge on the d.c. circuit, one of my senior colleagues said, "ruth, i have been at this business a long time and one thing i would like to impart to you. do your best job in each case but when it's over, when the opinion is out, do not look back. do not worry about things that have passed, go on to the next case and give it your all." that corresponds to advise my mother gave me which she summed up in the phrase "be a lady." by that s
, these cardinals have been appointed by pope benedict xvi and john paul ii so i don't think we'll see a situation of conflict. >> pelley: why can't the vatican seem to settle on a date for the conclave to begin to select the new pope? >> well, part of it is logistical. we have to wait until the pope actually leaves, which will happen on thursday. and then on friday we begin the period of the sette vacantis the vacant seat. and this is all regulated within the vatican rules and they will need time, of course, to set up the sistine chapel, to set up the logistical aspects of holding a conclave within itself. and then they will need some time to meet in order to discuss exactly who their preferred candidate will be. so i think if we're looking at a week, that's moving pretty quickly for the vatican. >> pelley: delia gallagher in st. peter's square in rome thank you so much. what's behind an increase in teen driving deaths? the supreme court takes up a challenge to a landmark civil rights law. and a hot air balloon tragedy when the "cbs evening news" continues. from washington. washington. i have low
, pope john paul. before the body is moved across st. peter's square to the basilica. unlike all of the past popes whose reign ended in this room, benedict is the first to leave office still breathing. like a king, attending his own funeral. today, the dean of the college of cardinals thanked him for his service. benedict stood up and embraced him. the pope wasn't expected to speak, but he did. saying, among you is also the future pope, to whom i pledge my unconditional reverence and obedience. that hasn't been an issue for 600 years. today, vatican cameras will follow benedict's departure, minute-by-minute. 19 cameras documenting his trip, live. every angle covered, from his final wave at st. peter's. they'll be there with him on the helicopter, as he flies to castel gandolfo. there, he'll greet the faithful one last time from the balcony. and then, tonight at 8:00 p.m., the swiss guard will leave and the gates will close. symbolically signaling that benedict is no longer pope. so, who is actually in charge in the interim? the papal camalango is in state. we're sure it's going t
for -- as someone put it, i think -- a cardinal who is the secretary of pope john paul ii is now the archbishop of poland. they said, why didn't he resign when he was old in sick, he said, he continue come down off the cross. there is a lot to be said forbearing one's burden to the end. but i do think that it's been hundreds of years since the last pope resigned. i wouldn't be surprised if we saw it happen again in the next hundred years. his resignation i think in service of the church has actually said this is an act of humility. people talk about how can one give up such a big and important and powerful position, i think there is also another way that this is humble, it's not lost upon the pope that in stepping down it may be perceived that this is an act of weakness or abandonment and i think that probably in many ways for this man, being sort of the kind, gentleman he is was probably more difficult for him than walking away from all the trappings of the papacy. jenna: your quick thoughts on the legacy he leaves behind. >> there are two things he'll be remembered for. one it's bringing the
minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. john paul dejoria is here and he is the cofounder of paul mitchell systems. he is joining us now from austin, texas. ten dollars an hour. you say yes to that. >> yes. let me explain how. people are talking about increasing wages. for the employer, many employers, they are saying i am raising my payroll 25%. same productivity. i cannot afford it. a lot of people are thinking that way. how do you increase productivity and be able to pay people more money? that is the secret. if somebody is hired, for example, $7.25, whatever they are hard for, you work with them. in three to four months, it is the ramp-up period of time. we will learn the job and how to create sub productivity of what we are doing. our business can have at least 25% more income because we are increasing productivity. if we do end up to 30%, how about $10 an hour. human beings are capable of doing a heck of a lot more. dagen: you are talking about a decision made by the business owner and operator. a private decision. not one mandated by the government. if the government did move it up , if you
by pope john paul ii. now, pope benedict told vatican cardinals that he didn't have the strength to go on. people we spoke to this morning said all of the other popes except one have died in office. why couldn't he? but others were sympathetic. >> i was listening to the catholic radio station and they were saying he wanted to resign even before. right now, he feels this is it. so god bless him. >> reporter: the 85-year-old ally last day of pope will be february 28th. the last time the pope resigned was nearly 600 years ago, when pope gregory xii stepped down in an effort to end the civil war within the church. pope benedict xvi was born in 1927 as joseph ratzinger. he served in the army but deserted and was eventually captured by americans and then released. his decision sets the stage for a new pope to be elected before the end of march. the san francisco archdiocese just opened about a minute ago. we are hoping to speak to someone from there and get reaction on this event. >> all right. tara, you can get more information about the surprise resignation announcement about the pope by goin
succeed pope john paul ii. >> joining us is from the school of law. >> glad to be with you. >> one of my first questions, we think about the catholic church, it's been underfire and i know that you are very concerned about the moral decline of the world in general. so, when you think about the next pope, you've got to have to have somebody who will adapt and adhere to the catholic belief system. >> that's right, and i'm confident that the conclave will pick someone like that, an extremely good successor not just to benedict, but john paul iv. ap they had the history, the back-to-back, and i think there are a lot of cardinals out there who could fill those shoes. >> since you have an accurate track record of predicting the next pope, who is in the running? >> well, i'm not sure that i actually predicted it. i hoped that he would be the choice. and-- >> that's close enough. >> i don't know. you know, at this point, i don't think there's any front runner, and i think it is really impossible to predict who it's going to be. but, obviously, you have your favorites choices. i think that las ve
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learned about it, and ratzinger did nothing for ten years. he was so close to john paul, too, that he took him on plane rides with him and did everything he could to support him. when the news came out about what a horrendous person he was ratzinger said he has done so much for the church, how can we attack him? by good for the church, he meant that he raised lots of money. he raised more money than anyone else in the church. he was close toed bloody dictator of peru, who tortured and killed over a thousand priests, nuns, and lay workers during his reign. and so, that connection is there. it cannot be erased. and ratzinger it stops at his desk. >> cenk: it sounds like you're describing a fundamentally corrupt church, would you go that far? >> absolutely. journalists are doing that. every day there is a new scandal. as a theologian, i see this, in fact, as good news. i think the holy spirit has given us two sk. >> joy: smatic folks and we can start the church all over again. we can go back to the real teachings of jesus. it's about love and justice. it's not complicated. and we don't need t
by the announcement. professor kurt martens of catholic university spoke about it. >> when john paul ii was ill, basically they knew what was coming. so they had time to prepare, to talk, to look at the challenges and to look at candidates, possible candidates. that is now not the case. >> the church expects to have a new pontiff in lace by easter sunday. -- in place by easter sunday. that is march 31. jessica? >> thanks so much, andrea. >>> massive federal budget cuts are set to kick in, in just a few weeks. that could mean furloughs for hundreds of thousands of federal and civilian workers. the measures could hit our local work force very hard. if you are facing a furlough, you don't have to take it lying down. joining me now, john mahoney, chair of the employment law practice group. thanks so much for joining us so early. >> you're very welcome. >> let's start with worker rights. i think looft federal workers -- a lot of federal workers looking at these furloughs actually have ways they can protest essentially getting a furlough. what are their rights? >> well, if you're furloughed for 30 da
celebration, he did look weaker and weaker, but then he again he is an 85-year-old man. john paul ii before him was even in worse shape and he did not resign. nobody was really expecting him to resign or abdicate, as was said in a previous conversation. so, it did come as a surprise, for sure. we have, just right here at the vatican right now in st. peter's square, there are a few faces that express his belief when asked what the cameras are all about. i'm telling them that the pope is about to resign. nobody can really believe that because that is unprecedented in modern times. there was a pope in the 13th century that resigned but certainly this hasn't happen ed >> there is concern that this is more than just a pope aging, that there are more health concerns. have you heard anything like that? >> reporter: there are a lot of allegations, of course, in the house of pope benedict xvi, a lot of rumors going around in the past few months that he wasn't doing so well. but as usual as ever with the vatican, it's always very fickle to get complete and full survey on the actual health of the pope
of information 2005 when pope john paul died and as we watched the election of pope benedict xvi. obviously it had already come out in the unite and there are lots of reports but hadn't exploded in europe. i'm talking to vatican insiders and watchers who say this may explode in other parts of the world as well, that it is a bit of a ticking timebomb. in that regard, it is different. clearly the church is really -- they just simply can't believe that all these headlines are happening the very final week of pope benedict's reign. so they're desperately trying to get out from under this deluge of bad news and hope at least the next two days are going to be much more devoted to the final religious tasks of pope benedict. tomorrow he has his final general audience. they've handed out tens of thousands of tickets. st. peter's square behind me is going to be filled. there's going to be the traditional popemobile circular around st. peter's square. then the gradual ceremonial steps that are going to be taken before pope benedict xvi leave. but unprecedented in this way and, of course, because this
john paul the second. >> in san francisco a mass of just getting under way at st. mary's church. the first since the announcement this morning. that is where we have kron fours will tran was getting reaction in the area. >> i was very surprised that he was made cold in the first place because he really was almost of retirement age when he started. we are pleased with the work in the eight years that he has done. >> he changed how the mass was formulated. he did provide change. it is hard to compare him to pope john paul the second who provided all with a great sense of charismatic presence. >> i talked to another man he says he's it still has not sunk into the pulp resign. it is so rare. you will hear from here coming him coming up at 8:00. >> thank you for the report will. >> the search for christopher of dorner continues. our dedication for catching this killer remains steadfast. our confidence that we will bring him to just of is unshaken. this search is not a matter of if. it is a matter of when. and i want christopher dorner to know that. >> strong words from the mayor of l
for somebody who will continue the intellectual, the pass storm mission of john paul the 2nd and benedict the 16th. who will be in alignment with them and their cardinals from europe, north america, latin america and africa that can do that very well. jenna: like all popes, really in the position of great power. there is also criticism that sometimes is levied upon someone with such a responsibility. i'm just curious when you reflect back over these last several years with pope benedict, what do you think is important when you look ahead to who is chosen for the next pope but not only for the leadership of the church but a religious leader, a spiritual leader for the world? >> i think one of the great challenges is reconciliation among people of different faiths of integrity, of spirituality, of purifying the church. this has been a great concern of pope benedict and i think his successor will be of the same mind, that, the people have to folk discuss on the person of jesus christ as christians, the work of charity and brotherhood. jenna: mr. anderson, so nice of you to join us today. we
choosing a quieter life. so very different from his predecessor john paul who stayed until the very end. anthony from pennsylvania witnessed both pope's last sermons. >> they're courage in different ways. in opposite ways but the same degree of courage. >> reporter: the pope summoning the strength to say good-bye, giving up one of the most powerful roles on earth. meeting publicly with the faithful one last time. >> savannah as the pope got up to leave. there was a wave of emotion. people calling out to him, waving good-bye. many people held up banners saying thank you in return. pope benedict told the faithful i have never felt this way. >> thank you. greg burke is the senior communications adviser just with the pope in the final audience. good morning it's good to see you. >> good morning. >> sometimes tone can be lost in translation. you heard this address. how does the pope seem to you these last few days? what's his mood? . he's a serene person. i have known him as cardinal ratzinger. he took a lot of hits from john paul ii. i see him now calmer than ever. he showed a little emotio
tradition has yet to catch fire. an effort begun by benedict's much loved predecessor, pope john paul ii. mind you any comparison between benedict and celebrity pope is invidious. a point made by fair-minded editorial writers. sex abuse scandal in church, involving homosexual priests continue to march catholic teaching and carries with it a whiff of sulfur. pope paul the vi a warned satan had earned the temple of god. working to eradicate the stain of abuse and apologizing publicly to victims and their families. in a move long overdo he recently fired the morally challenged cardinal roger mahoney of the los angeles diocese. it must be said, however, that while the church enemies have warmed to the scandal, too often catholics and n name only have used it as an excuse to ignore the teachings of the faith they long abandoned. and benedict's rest anything says the authority of the church is ambiguous. speculation runs high who will lead more than a billion catholics. although a fruitless guessing game often fueled by conspiracy theories. whoever is chosen will face grave sin. just last week
-day timetable to start the process to choose a new pope were set in 1996 by pope john paul ii and only could be changed by another pope. that is what ben dick today benedict did today, one of his last official acts. he gave his final sunday blessing to huge crowds in st. peter's square. no date is set for the conclave to begin. in order to have a new pope by the start of holy week, a new pope would have be installed by sunday, march 17th. the date change comes amid the news there will be one less cardinal voting in the enclave. cardinal keith o'brien of scotland, britain's highest ranking catholic leader is retiring and will not be attending. his resignation of archbishop of edinburgh is part of a mandatory age requirement because he is 75 years old but it comes in the wake of allegations of misconduct. british newspapers report that o'brien has been accused by three current priests and one former priest of acting inappropriately with them in the 19 80s. the cardinal said he will not monday that he will not attend the conclave because he does not want media attention focused on him dur
stepped down, because, remember, he watched john paul ii's demise and watched his powers fade, and what happens when a pope declines in power, the bureaucracy in inevitably increases. and i don't think he particularly enjoyed what was happening aat that time and may be seeing tremors again. and he decided to go ahead and retire early. >> let's stay on successors for a moment. any possibility that an american would -- we have dolan on there. is there any possibility we could see an american pope? >> i love cardinal dolan. i have known him since he was a priest. if i could elect a pope, i would elect dolan. but half of these election fors are europeans, the other half are predominantly africans and asians. the likelihood of them electing an american pope is remote. america has such a huge influence on the world to give them a papacy would be a bridge too far. that was the mind-set into the last conclave. look for a european, right now, if you were -- you know, begging me to give you an answer, i would probably say look at cardinal oullette from canada, who the pope incidentally sort of an
john paul died in 2005, there was a period of nine days of mourning after his funeral which was 9 or 10 days after his death. there was a long stretch before they entered into the conclave. that will happen this time without the days of mourning, at some point after february 28th, the cardinals will gather in rome and assemble in the general congregations. they will gather and oversee some of the day-to-day business temporarily and that's overseen by a smaller group. they'll also gather in larger groups to discuss the challenges, the issues facing the church today. the state of the church in the different parts of the world. may have times to hear reports from different cardinals from different parts of the world. all that before they enter into the official conclave which is governed by a series of rituals. they'll actually begin the morning of the conclave with the celebration of mass. so they really gather and begin with prayer. and then they have a so long um per session into the sistine chapel where the doors are closed and locked and go in for the conclave and the voting of the se
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